RADIO PRESENTING …THE ANALOGUE YEARS

This is me at Lancashire’s Red Rose Radio some time during the 1980s.

You can see sheets of paper everywhere – records cued on turntables, commercials and station idents on cartridges, all stacked up and ready to play.

During a live show we had to log every second of music played, including details of composer, publisher, record label and exact duration. Then you had to put everything back where you found it and start all over again.

All this while talking between the records and answering listeners phone calls. How did we manage in radio’s analogue days? … Eeeee but we were happy.

You try and tell the young jocks of today that, and they won’t believe you…They just don’t know they’re born!

October 10th 2022 marks 40 years since my first professional radio gig. In this blog I look back to that exciting night.

It all began for me in a Lancashire church one Sunday evening 40 years ago on October 10th,1982.

This was my first professional job. I had been given my own show on the brand new commercial radio station for Lancashire, Red Rose Radio.

I hadn’t been to church in a long time, but here I was spending the first of many Sunday evenings at St Paul’s Church in Preston. The old building was beautifully restored and seemed to light up like a beacon across the area it served. No longer a place of worship, now the latest in a growing industry of commercial radio stations opening around the U.K.

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Unless you work in radio you can’t imagine the excitement of how it feels to be given your own show. There I was on the schedule, Sunday 8pm till midnight.

I was so proud to see my name on on the same schedule as legendary broadcasters like Keith Macklin, the Programme Controller who gave me my first break, and Dave Lincoln, Head of Music.

Dave Lincoln from Liverpool’s Radio City was part of the line up on Red Rose 301, along with Steve Collins, Alan Beswick, Baz Reilly and Sally Moon.

I remember Dave showing me how the desk worked – the careful business of dropping a stylus on the record and how far back you had to turn the disk so that the turntable had time to pick up speed. I was already a fan of Dave’s presentational style so I couldn’t believe I was now working with him.

Of course I had already learned so much in hospital radio at Radio Whiston near Liverpool.

But this night in October was my first paid, professional gig. I would happily have done it for nothing, the twenty five pound shift fee was just incidental.

Then the responsibility of the whole thing hit me when the taped classical programme scheduled before me came to an end. The realisation I had to keep the new station on air and carry the torch till closedown. Or would it all come crashing down around me ?

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Meanwhile, the clock counted down to 8pm when I would open a fader to take the news from LBC London. In those days we had local bulletins with a journalist on duty until midnight. We would take national Independent Radio News from London, which ran for three minutes, followed by a two minute local bulletin from the Red Rose newsroom.

So there I was, about to take control of the airwaves at five past eight. As the news ended I started a jingle into the very first record of the evening. I had a specially taped announcement from my hospital radio friend and colleague John Gillmore.

Some friends had gathered at a party to listen to my big moment. But what they heard after the opening jingle was …….silence … radio static and a few crackles.

In radio, twenty seconds can seem like a long time, which was how long it took before the first record I ever played on professional radio began to spin. It was the new single by The Boystown Gang, a cover of ‘Signed Sealed Delivered’. Shame I didn’t choose the Stevie Wonder original.

The disc’s failure to start on cue was because I set it up too far in advance, and failed to check after knocking the stylus back a groove. Perhaps I should have paid more attention to Dave Lincoln in the first place!

And so Derek Webster was launched as a professional broadcaster, on 301 metres medium wave and 97.3 VHF across the airwaves of Lancashire.

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It felt so exciting and I began to enjoy the experience, becoming more confident as the phones started ringing. It seemed everyone loved it, even the security man, now kept from his slumber by phone calls lighting up the switchboard. He must have felt part of it.

It wasn’t all plain sailing of course. One thing I soon discovered in radio is that when you become too confident the unexpected comes along and knocks you off your pedestal.

Among the broadcasting sins committed on my first radio programme are some classics.

I miss timed an hour, playing the Eagles’ ‘Lying Eyes’, a six minute story song starting at three minutes to the hour. These bulletins simply can’t wait and everything stops for the news, so when you fade a song like this, it’s like stopping a film halfway through. One sarcastic listener called up and asked if I could be play the other half of Lying Eyes next week.

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Another way to annoy listeners is to mispronounce place names. On a local radio station the listeners expect you to know these things.

After turning Lancashire places like Penwortham into “Pen-worth-ham” and Euxton into “Yoox-ton” ( It should be pronounced: “Exton”), I was visited in the studio by Julian Allitt. He was the News Editor who knew his patch very well and seemed a little annoyed.

Julian had a very deadpan expression with an air of disgust, even when he was being amiable – think John Cleese but not as silly. He walked into the studio, handed me a pronunciation guide and said wearily: “Please stop f…..g up the pronunciation of places, It’s been going on all week and it’s got to stop”.

With that he walked out, leaving me to believe I had really messed up. Perhaps I shouldn’t presume to tell the listeners I would be back again next week.

But when the time came to close down at midnight and say goodnight I felt I had handled it quite well. I finished with a coded message to my friends, which involved shuffling paper just before the overnight test tone came on.

In the weeks to come I would learn that you can’t always rely on the adrenalin that gave such a lift on that first programme. Being a professional broadcaster means giving your best, even when the world appears to be conspiring against you.

Some of the best advice ever given to me was by David Maker, the launch MD of Red Rose Radio, before my first show.

He said, when you are on the radio always put yourself in the mind of the listener. Imagine what they might be doing when you are on air. Try to imagine how they feel and react to that.

David Maker’s advice stayed with me throughout my career, since that very first professional radio programme I presented at Red Rose Radio in the old church at St Paul’s Square, Preston, Lancashire.

 

A Farewell to St Paul’s by Derek Webster

Have you ever felt so passionate about a former workplace that you would actually give up your Friday evening just to go back for one last time?

Well that’s exactly what happened at Saint Paul’s Church, Preston on February the twenty eighth, 2020.

This old but striking nineteenth century building was, from October 1982, home of Lancashire’s first commercial station, Red Rose Radio, which later became 97.4 Rock FM.

For various reasons, mainly financial, and because Ofcom no longer insist that radio stations have to be based in the communities they serve, the building is no longer needed.

So before the spirit of radio finally left the church, a gathering of former staff members, including myself, made a pilgrimage to the place where we made happy radio ..

I decided to record some interviews during the evening which you can hear via the link below. It was the very last audio piece to me made at the now empty radio station.

https://soundcloud.com/derek-webster-135415578/farewell-to-st-pauls

Sunday 10th October marks 39 years since my first professional radio gig. In this blog I look back to that exciting night.

For me it all began in a Lancashire church 39 years ago on October 10th,1982.

This was my first professional job. I had been given my own show on the brand new commercial radio station for Lancashire, Red Rose Radio.

I hadn’t been to church in a long time, but here I was spending the first of many Sunday evenings at St Paul’s Church in Preston. The old building had been beautifully restored and seemed to light up like a beacon against the surroundings. No longer a place of worship, now a radio station.

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Unless you worked in radio you can’t imagine the excitement of how it feels to be given your own show. There I was on the schedule, Sunday 8pm till midnight. I was so proud to see my name on on the same schedule as one of my broadcasting heroes.

Dave Lincoln from Liverpool’s Radio City, now one of the main presenters on Red Rose 301, trained me in the studio – showing how to put the stylus on the record and how far back you had to turn the disk so that the turntable had time to pick up speed.

Of course I had already learned so much at Whiston Hospital near Liverpool in a state of the art studio as a volunteer at hospital Radio Whiston.

But this night in October was my first paid gig. I would happily have done it for nothing, the twenty five pound shift fee was just incidental.

Then the responsibility of the whole thing hit me when the taped classical programme before me ended. The realisation I had to keep the new station on air and carry the torch till closedown. Or would it all come crashing down around me ?

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Meanwhile the clock counted down to 8pm when I would open a fader to allow the news to go out. In those days we had local bulletins with a journalist on duty until midnight, even at weekends. We would take the national Independent Radio News from London, which ran for three minutes followed by a two minute local bulletin from the Red Rose newsroom.

So there I was about to take control of the airwaves at five past eight. As the news ended I started a jingle into the very first record of the evening. I had a specially taped announcement from my hospital radio friend and colleague John Gillmore.

Some friends of mine gathered at a party to listen to my big moment. But what they heard after the opening jingle was …….silence, perhaps radio static and a few crackles.

In radio, twenty seconds can seem like a long time, which was how long it took before the first record I ever played on professional radio began to spin. It was a newly released single by The Boystown Gang, a cover of ‘Signed Sealed Delivered’. Shame I didn’t choose the Stevie Wonder original.

The disc’s reluctance to start was because I cued it up too far in advance and failed to check after knocking the stylus back a groove. Perhaps I should have paid more attention to Dave Lincoln in the first place.

And so Derek Webster was launched as a professional broadcaster on 301 metres medium wave and 97.3 VHF across the airwaves of Lancashire.

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It felt so exciting and I began to enjoy the experience, becoming more confident. The phones started ringing. It seemed everyone loved it, even the security man now kept from his slumber by phone calls coming in to the main switchboard. He must have felt part of it.

It wasn’t all plain sailing of course. One thing I soon discovered in radio is that when you become too confident the unexpected comes along and knocks you off your pedestal.

Among the broadcasting sins committed on my first radio programme are some classics.

I mistimed an hour introducing the Eagles’ ‘Lying Eyes’ and started playing the six minute story song three minutes to the hour. These bulletins simply can’t wait and everything stops for the news, so when you fade a song it is like stopping a film halfway through. One sarcastic listener called up and asked if I would kindly play the other half of Lying Eyes.

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Another way to annoy listeners is to mispronounce place names. On a local radio station the listeners expect you to know these things.

After turning Lancashire places like Penwortham into “Pen-worth-ham” and Euxton into “Yoox-ton” ( It should be pronounced: “Exton”), I was visited in the studio by Julian Allitt. He was the News Editor who knew his patch very well and seemed a little annoyed.

Julian had a very deadpan expression with an air of disgust, even when he was being amiable – think John Cleese but not as silly. He walked into the studio, handed me a pronunciation guide and said wearily: “Please stop f…..g up the pronunciation of places, It’s been going on all week and it’s got to stop”.

With that he walked out leaving me to believe I had really messed up. Perhaps I shouldn’t presume to tell the listeners that I would be back again next week.

But when the time came to close down at midnight and say goodnight I felt I had handled it all quite well. I finished with a coded message to my friends which involved shuffling some paper just before the overnight test tone came on.

In the weeks to come I would learn that you can’t always rely on the adrenalin that helped lift you off the ground on that first programme. Being a professional broadcaster means giving your best even when the world appears to be conspiring against you.

Some of the best advice ever given to me was by David Maker, the launch MD of Red Rose Radio before my first show on his station.

He said, when you are on the radio always put yourself in the mind set of the listener. Imagine what they might be doing at the time you are on air. Try and imagine how they feel, listening to you on the radio and react to that.

David Maker’s advice has stayed with me throughout my career since my very first professional radio programme at Red Rose Radio, in the old church on St Paul’s Square, Preston, Lancashire. 

Flying high on the airwaves …

 

Reading the travel news on BBC Radio Lancashire this morning reminded me of when I became the Eye In The Sky on Red Rose Radio (Now Rock FM).  Long before the technology of speed sensors and traffic cameras this was considered the best way of reporting the daily rush hour hold ups.

Every morning I would drive to Blackpool Airport and help the pilot push his Cessna aeroplane out of the hangar until it was on the runway ready to go. You can see me pictured here, all wired for sound, in a photograph taken by colleague and friend Dave Shearer.

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The close up below was taken somewhere over the Tickled Trout roundabout of the M6, with daylight just breaking in time for the first road report, usually after 8am.

On one occasion the pilot switched the engine off, right in the middle of one of my broadcast; the strong wind currents would keep the plane suspended in mid air while I did my bit on the radio. You could hear the breeze whistling by and the nervousness in my voice as I hoped he could get it started again and bring us safely down. A very scary moment, which may explain my startled look.

 

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Having two spare seats we would take listeners and clients up with us for the ride.
This was not always a good idea, especially on one occasion when a guest – not used to flying – turned a funny colour and brought up his breakfast bang on cue, live on the radio.

So much for the glamorous life on the airwaves.

RED ROSE MEMORIES

Today is the 30th anniversary of commercial radio broadcasting in Lancashire with the arrival of Red Rose Radio on the airwaves. Still home to Rock FM the old church at St Paul’s Square in Preston was always a joy to show off to visitors. This video was made during a tour I gave in 1991 which preserves a slice of life on a typical Friday afternoon.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysuxdcnT6Dg&sns=em

Sheila is on reception while John Myers holds court from his desk as head of Red Rose Gold. 97.4 Rock FM boss Mark Matthews spins the hits from studio one and Simon Tate goes on air from 999am . Meanwhile Sports Editor Nigel Reed prepares for the station’s extensive weekend sports coverage and Richard Frediani meets another news deadline. John Gillmore gets ready to go on air and somewhere in the building station MD Dave Lincoln surveys his kingdom.

This was an exciting time to be in radio especially on a team like this was. I was lucky enough to begin my broadcasting career here when the station opened in 1982 and like many who worked there down the years it left an indelible impression on my life.20121005-145413.jpg

Pictured above: The class of 1991 celebrate the first birthday of 999am Red Rose Gold and 97.4 Rock FM. ( Thanks to Dave Shearer for the photo)